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Post by chabanais on Feb 11, 2015 10:09:14 GMT 1
In reply to Bill's post: "While thinking baseboards, I’ve pondered back scenes and their need also to be planned at the early stage in order to best coordinate with scenery and structures. My brain then wandered onto diminishing lines of perspective and scale. So here is my question: has anyone used diminishing scale as a modelling technique between the main operating features of the layout and the backboard scene?
I want to investigate this issue and incorporate some techniques into my new layout. I’m thinking in terms of incorporating smaller scale people, vehicles, vegetation and buildings. Perhaps a winding road of diminishing width, some N gauge items, possibly structures with decreasing dimensions?
Experience, suggestions and comments will always be welcomed. Cheers m’dears,"
I have a place on my blossoming layout where the backscene is more that 2 meters away from the viewer. One way I intend to tackle this issue, particularly because I enjoy them, is to use Scalescenes buildings. You need a printer that has the ability to print in percentages of full size, but you can incrementally reduce the size of a model to achieve perspective. Beauty of it is, you only pay once for the download of a kit from Scalescenes, after that its down to how much printer ink you want to invest in your buildings.
All the best John
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Post by longchap on Feb 11, 2015 11:09:39 GMT 1
Excellent thinking John and cost effective to boot. Thank you. I've added it to my memory bank.
I'm also thinking of a couple of 'flats', or miniaturised theatrical two dimensional backdrops, fixed to the baseboard with scenic themes and acting as transitional devices between the three dimensional layout and final back board. Rolling hills and ridges spring to mind, but it would be great to have the space for an N gauge viaduct or trestle bridge carrying a full sized main line passenger service!
Hi-ho, back to work I go.
Bill
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Post by chabanais on Feb 11, 2015 12:25:41 GMT 1
The theatre flats idea really appeals to me. In another incarnation I was a theatre technician, so appreciate using this kind of device. I did see a website, but cannot remember the name, where they provide cut-out buildings, etc,. to mount on the backscence, or in your case the 'flats', although I would not be surprised if, like the Metcalfe kits, they are impervious to copying and cannot therefore be reduced, whereas you can manipulate the Scalescenes printouts as frontages, etc. and paste them up either as 2D images, or short-depth 'low-relief' 3D features.
Any more ideas would be most welcome, as I have not begun the scenic aspects of my layout yet and its a department where I need advice and inspiration.
All the best John
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Post by Doug on Apr 20, 2015 11:13:30 GMT 1
I heartily recommend going on-line and sourcing a copy of 'Miniature Landscape Modelling' by J H Ahern ISBN 0 85242 6844. It was reprinted right up to 1979 and is quite easily available.
It covers all of your questions quite thoroughly.
Doug
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Post by longchap on Apr 26, 2015 19:33:52 GMT 1
Thanks Doug, I've just found a copy and waiting for the postal rate to France.
Bill
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Post by longchap on May 2, 2015 15:10:42 GMT 1
I have 'Miniature Landscape Modelling' next to me now, priced at 12/6 and am appreciating the wisdom contained therein and also smiling from the knowledge that John Ahern originally set this all out for us, just as my parents were just getting to know one other Thanks again for the recommendation Doug. Bill
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Post by tonypeck2 on Dec 18, 2015 21:07:40 GMT 1
Here are some back-scenes (7mm scale). Sky painted on 3mm MDF. Terrace houses printed on computer, then photo-copied, widows cut out & glazed, & stuck to thick card. Factory is 3mm MDF skimmed with plaster, then stonework scrived & painted. The retaining wall and road are in 10mm MDF, strong enough to support a bridge, to give access to the back of the layout.
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Post by chabanais on Dec 22, 2015 11:53:00 GMT 1
Hello Tony,
Looks terrific, did you do the painting yourself? What paint did you use?
The smoking chimneys are quite effective.
Are the platform surfaces painted too? How did you finish them off? I am just beginning platform construction now that I have a few sections rebuilt so welcome any tips. For example is your platform lighting live? I know you are 7mm, but there are others modelling in that scale, so any info would help them too.
All the best John
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Post by brian on Dec 23, 2015 17:05:47 GMT 1
That looks very good Tony, I hope mine turns out as well! I used French acrylic paint ,colour Beton , to finish the platforms. It is a mid grey and as the name suggests, concrete colour. I intend using artists acrylic for my back scenes as it is easy to use and mistakes can be rectified. Progress has been non existent due to household jobs and shooting commitments. Now I have qualified for the top licence I'll have to work to keep it and I intend entering more competitions in 2016 so progress on the layout will be slow. I wish you all a happy Christmas and a healthy and fruitful New Year Best wishes Brian
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